The 60’s results

Well its been over 2 months now that I brewed the Scottish 60’s.
If you remember, I brewed 10 gallons and split that into 2 batches. 1 fermented with my usual Windsor yeast, the other with Coopers ale yeast.

They sat side by side they entire time. From fermentation to kegging. All things were as equal as I could keep them.

I guess we should start with the numbers. Both were OG of .042. And amazingly enough the FG on both pretty close. I knew the Windsor would finish right about .012. Its pretty predictable, But i was not sure about the coopers. It finish just a bit lower at .010

Fermentation was vastly different though.
The Windsor yeast of course had its usually explosion the first day then peter out over about 4-5 days. Huge foamy mass.
The Cooper’s Kinda just laid there and slightly gurgled for over a week. If you have used wine yeast before, thats what it did. I was kinda thinking it might be old yeast, but it did match the Windsor in numbers.

But when everything dropped out and were still in the carboys, you sure could tell something was different. And something that i have been trying to figure out recently, came to light.

I should have taken pics but alas I did not. But the haze that I have been trying to get rid of for months was NOT in the coopers. But exactly the same haze I have been having was in the Windsor.
Now that I had something to go on, I found similar claims in other forums about Windsor.

So they have been in the Keg for well over a month. And The Windsor batch is still hazy. It is getting better. But following exactly as my past beers have been.
The Coopers, clear as a bell. Not much more i can say about that,

The taste difference between them was pretty far apart. The Windsor beer was exactly what you would expect from this yeast. With the low hops and low Alc, the fruity really come thru. Sweet, and maybe a thicker “feel” to it some how,
Not so with the coopers. far more malt, caramel. Cleaner. I wouldnt call it thin, but different than the other.

From what I seen here, Cooper’s is the clear winner in this recipe.
Clearer, cleaner taste.
I like them both. (not just because I made them either) But definitely prefer the Coopers Ale yeast version.

American Stout

11-26-11 (having issues with pics. will edit in later)
Black feather stout

– 1 can extract light
– 5 lbs pale malt
– 3 lbs Munich
– 1 lb black patent
– .75 60L
– .25 roasted barley
1 oz magnum hops 60 min
1 oz cascade hops 15 min
1 oz Willamette hops 5 min

US05 yeast

Using original recipe with a few changes
1-added 1/4 lbs torrified wheat for (yea you know)
2-added 1/4 lbs chocolate malt just because it was on top of the torrified wheat.
3-gonna add 1 more oz of cascade at flame out or maybe split it at flame out and 15 min

4-Also added an ounce or more of Mt.hood from backyard at 15

Got my thermometer adjusted. as we are gonna mash pretty high. I want that nice thick body.

Used 4 gallons of 170 water and we settled at 157. pretty closed to what i wanted. Looks a bit thin But not so bad. (beersmith actually wanted to use 3.8 gallons.)
Trying Kelly’s coffee can Vourlof thingy.
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Works good, but i need a way to keep it in one spot, and i think bigger holes would help. I am trying to just spread it out, not really strain it.
From start to end of mash we didnt really lose any temp.
Got 3 gallons from1st sparge, so we added 4 more gallons to get just over 6 gallons to boil.
Pretty rainy so I dont think we will lose much in the boil today
With the 15 min addition I am gonna throw one of bags of the Mt Hood hops I grew this year. No idea how much there is, but its a gallon bag. Dried and packed pretty good.
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During the boil we get to enjoy some of Max’s Zuchinni wine and Coffee mead. Oh god the mead, at least I didnt barf right there. No more coffee mead. 
Lots of trub this time with the whole hops.
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I think I shoulda let it settle out a bit more, but i think we will be ok
Took some time to get an accurate reading but we our OG is 1.074
With the US-05 munching this down we should be in the 8-81/2 abv range.