Why an all in one system?

One of the biggest crazes (craze, not fad.. But fads could be a post all on its own…) right now are the all in one brewing systems. The GrainFather, Mash and Boil, Robobrew, Anvil Foundry… Seems everyone is putting some version of an electric system.

What they consist of is an 8ish gallon, 110v (some are starting to include 240) boil kettle, with a removable metal basket that you mash in. You do the mashing and boiling in the same vessel. So essentially, a stainless version of a Brew in a Bag. Each system comes with standard temp settings/controls, while each variety has its different features. From built in pumps, distilling addons and chillers depending on how you plan on using it, and of course,, how much you wanna spend.

Now I was very skeptical of these things when they first came out. But watching the Brits brew with their similar electric water boilers interested me enough to give one a try. I chose the Mash and Boil because I was only planning on using it to heat my mash waters and boil the wort in. I was going to continue to mash in my tun.

This plan works fantastic. With the timer I can have my water heated up and ready to go the minute I walk down stairs, Drain into my tun, and start heating sparge waters. But doing it this way does require a separate kettle to hold the wort while sparging before getting returned to the kettle to boil. Having all of the equipment any way,, this was fine with me.

However, I started to use the M&B for mashing as well. After figuring out that a mash bag in the tube helps drain and wrapping the entire thing in reflectix keeps heat in, and not to trust the onboard thermometer and manually check temps, I found that this system is very accurate, and very repeatable and quite easy to use especially in a small space.

Mash tube with bag

I think the basic system is pretty solid. You do need an extra kettle if you plan on sparging, possibly not if you are going no sparge. A chiller. Immersion is great, counterflows work as well. The pumps are optional, I do not use them. 

Normal brewing practices still apply here. You still need to pay attention. Make sure of your temps, sparging gives better efficiency, recirculating gets clearer wort. 

If these were around when I started decades ago, I might have started with one of these systems. I doubt that its cheaper than the burner/mashtun start up route, but if you are limited to electric brewing or have a small brew space, or just don’t wanna build your own equipment then these systems are for you.  

I for one am definitely buying another if the one I have now craps out. 

Foreign Extra brew notes

I need to get a few beers made soon. I seemed to have gotten far behind and have started to run extremely low on beers. That’s not good going into fall and winter. (It in fact just snowed a bit today!)

So this first one is a beer that I have brewed for a beerfest or homebrew showcase event, and I just loved this beer. 

Jagged: Forign Extra Stout. It was good, but I also think I could improve it. 

This post is going to be my notes and thoughts that I normally jot down for all of my beers. 

 

This is very helpful for me because while yes I tend to brew alot of repeat beers, I am also very spontaneous with them at the same time. Substituting things, adding things, correcting things on the fly. So I need to keep track of everything along the way or by the next day I would have no idea what I did. These notes really help me to see where things worked and where they didn’t, plus lets me remember odd things I did. So here we go. 

 I may have to add some commentary, as these notes are usually meant just for me, and may be unclear to others what I meant

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Jagged: Foreign Extra Stout

I wanted a stout that was like stouts used to be. One that you know is a stout. Not some half hearted attempt.

Going back to look at the last time I brewed this beer, I see that I used the Mash and Boil and I think I will again this time ads well, because 13 lbs is all I really can fit in my mash tun.

I also see that the review for the first batch already has the updated ingredient list of what I thought at the time of what it needed improved on, and not what I actually brewed for that day. That will be mostly what I am gonna go with.

I remember I felt it needed more roast. At 2 lbs already you would think that it would be enough. But I want more, so will be upping the Roast Barley and Chocolate malt by ½ pound each. 

If 3 lbs of black roasted grain isnt enough to rip yer face off, I don’t know what will. 

I see in the notes that I used 1.5 oz of magnum. I know those Magnum were getting old and probably were not up to their best bittering. Thought maybe the sharp bittering feel that Chinook gives, but because I’m raising the roast to OMG proportions, I’ll use Columbus instead.  I think I will get a better bittering and get that slightly basementy thing I’m looking for in a Foreign extra.

Jagged – 5 gallon 

  • 10lbs 2 row Am.
  • 1.5 lbs Roasted barley
  • 1.5 lbs chocolate malt (350srm)
  • *½ lb flaked oats
  • 1oz Columbus @60 15.9 AA
  • 1 oz cascade @15
  • Us 04 yeast.
  • Mash 154

Homebrew store was out of flaked barley, so I’ll sub in some flaked oats,, should be a good fit. No problems there.

I think I will mess with the water this time. Looking up on Brewers friend, I’m gonna use the London dark ale profile.

First though I gotta find my water volumes.

Looks like I will need 7.70 gallons total water. 

Thats about ½ gallon more than I can heat in the M&B at one time. 

Commentary: So what I so with my strike and sparge water usually is: 

  • find my total volume, 
  • Heat as much of it or all of it if possible at one time
  • Take out 2 gallons before mashing in and hold it for sparging later. Adding what ever more I need to in order to get my full volume

So in this case I need 7.7 gallons. I will heat 7 gallons of water in the M&B, take off 2 gallons. Mash into the 5 gallons in the kettle. To those 2 gallons I took off. I will add the rest of the .7 gallon and heat in smaller kettle to sparge temp.

Looking at the Brewer’s Friend water profile for London Dark ales, I think I will add ½ tsp each of gypsum and calcium chloride to my 7 gallons. 

That’s all the planning I need to do until this weekend, other than going to pick up my grain. Will continue of with the brew day notes then.

Set up the mash and boil for 160F for the morning.

Added ½ tsp gypsum and ½ tsp calcium chloride and ½ a campden tablet.

Going to mash in 5 gallons of the water. Basement and grain temp is 62F

Doughed in and was at 152F so hit the heat and recirc until 154F 

Used a pitcher to take wort from valve and pour back in over the grain. The tube isnt great about getting water back up into the grain while its in the kettle

Slightly over in preboil. Should be 6.6 gal  I’m at 6.8 ish.

Beersmith says I should be at 1.055 I’m at 1.052 very close.

Am going to boil a bit before starting timer. This should fix both numbers. These are close enough numbers where it would not matter much.

Really don’t seem to be boiling off that much. The boil is kinda slow today.

We had a little extra in the kettle and we were a bit short on gravity.

Supposed to be 1.062 and we are somewhere between 1.058 and 1.060.  Again.. Not far enough off for me to care.. But I could have boiled down more.

Pitched the yeast at 72F and will ferment at 63. 

Definitely looks Blaaaack.

We have good action 4 hours later. Looks good.

An Irish Extra Stout

It has been a hectic couple of months, but I finally can get down there and brew a beer.

Typically last month is when I usually brew the stouts, but March will do. But probably won’t make St. Patrick’s day.

Thought I would go the Extra Stout route this time.Basically it’s just a slightly ramped up version of an Irish Stout or “dry” stout as they used to be called. So what I’m doing today is using my 5 gallon stout recipe and making a 3 gallon batch.

A bit bigger beer that’s a bit more roasty. I never worried about adjusting the hops doing this. The Extra Stout does have a slightly higher bitterness, and the hop utilization in this smaller boil seems to scale back as well.What we have then is..

Foggier Fog- 3 gallon extra stout
5lbs Maris Otter
12oz roasted barley
4oz black patent
1 lb flaked barley
1 1/2 oz EKG at 60
Mashed at 156  and US04 yeast.

Will be looking to be at 1.052 OG and finish up around 1.014.
The FG seems a bit high, but the roast,, especially the Black Patent, keeps it from feeling too sweet.

This has always been one of my favorite brews. So I can’t wait.