just gonna post the recipe for the Waldo Lake Amber we made saturday. John and I brewed a 10 gallon batch and split it. we just doubled the original recipe, except for the carared. he bought his in Minnesota, but I could not get it here so i substituted in crystal 20 instead for my half of the grain. And the last hops john used his own grown cascades, i used the centennials here ’tis

7.75 lbs 2 row
4 lbs munich
2 lbs carared (or 20L)
.5 lbs melanoidin
1 oz cascade @ first wort
.75 oz magnum @ 60
1 oz centennial @ 0

we mashed at 153 for 60. I used US-05 yeast which is doing nicely right now, and he used a yeast cake from a different beer. (dont know what kind)